This post will tackle and interesting topic for traditional Christians and mystics alike: can we establish— through credible evidence—that the story of Jesus was influenced by Horus, the Egyptian sky / sun-god? For those of you waiting on part 3 of the Joseph narrative, I’ll have it posted on the upcoming weekend. In the meantime I thought it would be fun to post something a little different to start off the New Year.
Many sites floating around on the web are making the claims below:
1) Horus and Jesus were born of virgin
2) Horus’ father’s name was Seb / Geb, which correlates with Joseph.
3) Both were born at the winter solstice, perpetuating the sun-god / savior narrative
4) Both Jesus and Horus’s births were announced by a star in the east and attended by three wise men/ kings.
5) Horus was baptized by “Anup the Baptizer” while Jesus was baptized by John the Baptist.
6) Both performed miracles and both raised a Lazarus-type figure (Horus raised El-azar-us) from the dead
7) Both walked on water
8) Both had 12 disciples
9) Both were the light of the world
10) Horus was called the KRST, and when adding the vowel you get KRIST, which becomes Christ in Greek
Are there any truths to these claims? Of course not, at least not directly. Does this mean that the Jesus narrative really isn’t a repackaged version of the Horus narrative? Again the answer is no because it most definitely is.
How can I make that statement if there isn’t any direct evidence? Simple. While there are no direct correlations between Jesus and Horus, there are so many subtle ones that I can say with absolute confidence that our Jesus narrative was influenced by Egyptian myth. After this post I believe most of you will come to the same conclusion.
The problem with most scholars is that they only look for obvious, direct, correlations between Jesus and Horus; it is not their job to find subtle similarities and then build an entire theory on them. Regular internet Skeptics, on the other hand, usually dismiss links between the two because they fail to understand how complicated Egyptian mythology really was. They fail to see all the subtle evidence that provides enough information that when taken collectively, overwhelmingly supports the correlation. This becomes especially true when you realize that religious icons morph into many different deities and roles over time. This is the case with the hundreds of Egyptian Gods who had many more thousands of years of development than Christianity.
Let’s dissect the 10 comparisons between Jesus and Horus that I made above. I will admit that point number 2 will be only a weak correlation, and point 7 will be completely false. But in the rest of them I am going to show you how we can find subtle links by digging a little deeper than what most are willing to do. And of course at our conclusion I will also emphasize an encouraging thought embodied in the spirit of this blog: all these religious narratives are really about us anyway!
I want to begin by pointing out a very curious Bible Scripture.
“Yet I am the LORD thy God from the land of Egypt, and thou shalt know no God but me: for there is no savior beside me.” (Hosea 13:4).
Please keep this Bible scripture in the back of your mind as you read the 10 comparisons below.
1) Was Horus really born of a virgin?
You will not find any Egyptian sources telling you that Horus was born of a virgin. You have to dig a little deeper. A little bit about Horus:
His mother was Isis and his father was Osiris. Osiris was killed and dismembered. Isis then used magic to bring all the body parts of Osiris her husband back together again, but she couldn’t find his phallus. Isis then made a substitute phallus from clay and reeds, revived Osiris, and then copulated with him, eventually giving birth to a firstborn son who would become king of the world. I have seen so many skeptics say this is not a virgin birth. Then what is it? That Osiris copulated with a resurrected corpse containing a magically created penis to get pregnant is definitely no average birth. Virgin birth or not; the idea is still the same: both were miraculous births heralding the future king of the world. The births are related because they both represent a spiritual concept, not a physical one! In neither story are we talking about literal people or Gods. When Isis copulated with Orisis’ magically created phallus she was in the form of a hawk hovering over him. Think of the Holy Spirit hovering on the face of the waters in Genesis chapter 1 during creation. So for all the skeptics who try and disprove that the Jesus story had any similarity to Egyptian Gods I would say that you must learn to look beyond the literal surface meaning of all texts. Last but not least, perhaps we have more of a direct link to a virgin birth than skeptics would like to admit. Dr. G. Johannes Botterweck, professor of Old Testament and Catholic Theology at the University of Bonn, has stated:
“It is interesting that Isis is addressed as hwn.t in a sarcophagus oracle that deals with her mysterious pregnancy. In a text in the Abydos Temple of Seti I, Isis herself declares: “I am the great virigin…”
2) What about Horus’ father? Was his name Seb (Geb), and does this translate to Jospeh?
This can be confusing. Most critics will declare that Seb was Horus’ grandfather since Seb is the father of Osiris. This is true. But most skeptics miss something of vital importance: just as Jesus and the Father are really ONE, so it was for Osiris and Horus. Originally Horus was the sky god represented as a falcon, but in time he became a solar deity like his father Osiris. I will quote from the Egyptian Book of the Dead:
“I am the Prince in the Field,
I am Osiris.
I am Horus and Ra,
One with Osiris.”
Wikipedia also states, “Different forms of Horus are recorded in history, and these are treated as distinct gods by Egyptologists…Horus served many functions in the Egyptian pantheon, most notably being the god of the sun, war and protection.”
Consider another passage from the Egyptian Book of the Dead:
“…I am Horus…I may be in the body of my father Geb…”
As I said earlier in the article, deities evolve over time. It’s not as simple as saying A is not related to B because there is no direct link. Only someone who has their own agenda and preconceived notion about what they want to believe would say such a thing without first thoroughly investigating. With that being said, there are a few indirect correlations between “Seb / Geb” and Joseph. Seb / Geb was the earth God. Although God the Father was Jesus’ spiritual father, Joseph was his earthly father. I have already admitted that this correlation is the weakest. So weak, in fact, I was tempted to throw it out all together.
3) Both Horus and Jesus were born at the winter solstice, symbolizing the sun.
This one is a definite yes. We know Jesus was born right after the winter solstice, symbolizing the rising of new life just as the sun begins its ascent higher into the sky each day towards spring. The ancient historian Plutarch tells us that Horus was born around the winter solstice too. A lot of critics get tripped up here because they don’t realize Jesus was a sun-god as well.
4) Was Horus’s birth announced by a star and accompanied by three kings or wise men?
This one is also easily established. In order to understand this point you must familiarize yourself with the constellation of Orion since the Hunter are the three stars that make up his belt. The Christian astronomer Elijah Burritt has stated:
“They are sometimes denominated the Three Kings, because they point out the Hyades and Pleiades on one side, and Sirius, or the Dog-star, on the other. In [the Biblical book of] Job they are called the Bands of Orion.”
Barbara Walker, author of The Woman’s Encyclopedia of Myths and Secrets, has stated:
“Osiris’s coming was announced by Three Wise Men: the three stars Mintaka, Anilam, and Alnitak in the belt of Orion, which point directly to Osiris’s star in the east, Sirius…”
We have already mentioned that Osiris and Horus are somewhat interchangeable as Egyptian religion progressed over thousands of years. It’s easy to see then how Jesus’ birth with an eastern star and 3 wise men came from the events of Osiris’s and Horus’s lives.
A lot of critics will point out that the Bible doesn’t say there are three wise men. No offense to the critics, but this is a laughable argument. Every nativity scene across America contains three wise men. Why? Because three gifts were given. Even my six year-old is familiar with this scene from school and will tell you there were 3 wise men. This Bible doesn’t need to state it. It’s understood from tradition itself!
5) Was Horus really baptized by “Anup the Baptizer?”
The short answer to this is no, he wasn’t. But it doesn’t matter. Instead of talking about Anup, we should be focusing on the Egyptian God Anubis. It is with him that we find our correlation. Anubis had many different roles throughout the history of Egypt. One notable role was that he served as a ferryman who guided souls through the watery-night sky. Just as the Genesis author, the ancient Egyptians viewed the firmament divided by waters. Of course these are not supposed to be literal waters.
Anubis also met the deceased after coming off the river Hades to help them to the hall of the Two Truths. As such, Anubis served as the one who helped the soul make a transition into something more glorious. The Christian Egyptians, also known as Copts, had similar stories. Dr. Wallis Budge, author of The Mummy: A Handbook of Egyptian Funerary Archeology, writes on page 466:
“…John Chrysostom tells us that our Lord gave to John the Baptist a boat of gold, which he was to use in transporting the souls of the righteous over the river of fire in Amente.”
Something else you might find interesting is that James Bonwick, author of Egyptian Belief and Modern Thought (page 120), states:
“Anubis was…known as the “Preparer of the Way of the Other World.”
As you well know, John the Baptist prepared the way for Christ.
6) Did both Jesus and Horus perform miracles, and did Horus raise El-azar-us from the dead?
To answer the first question, yes, both performed miracles. As to the second question, it’s also easy to make the connection. You will not find any evidence that Horus raised someone named El-azar-us from the dead. But there’s no need. To see the real connection between Christ resurrecting Lazarus and Egyptian myth you only have to view an ancient Egyptian text that explains the mythical resurrection of Osirius (Horus’ father) by Horus himself. I found an excellent comparison of the Egyptian texts and the Gospel of John laid out side by side for you HERE. Please click on that link and it will blow you away.
7) Both Horus and Jesus walked on water. This statement is false. It would seem the writers of the Horus-Jesus comparison got overzealous here. Maybe someone will correct me here and show a correlation I have not discovered?
8) Did Horus really have 12 disciples?
Yes. Here is the proof in the picture below. According to Erik Hornung, author of The Ancient Egyptian Books of the Afterlife, the picture below represents, “Horus enthroned before theTwelve.”
9) Were both Horus and Jesus considered the “Light of the world?
Yes. Horus was the light of the world represented by the single eye. Jesus is depicted as the same. As you know from my other posts, Jesus also made a reference to the single eye that sometimes represents Horus. You can find more info on that HERE.
10) Were Jesus and Horus both known as the Christ?
Again the answer is yes, however you will find the correlation in ancient Egypt with the K-R-S-T. Many skeptics will point out that “KRST” is not a title. Rather, it is the word for “burial” and has been put on ancient Egyptian coffins. They are right. The other interesting point that skeptics bring up is that KRST does not mean “anointed” like Christ does in Greek. Again, they are right. So where is the connection? The entire process of mummification has to do with the death, burial, and resurrection of the Christ. Although KRST wasn’t a title in ancient Egypt meaning anointing, mummies were nevertheless anointed with the most expensive embalming oils. Even Jesus was anointed with these oils after his crucifixion by the women closely associated with him in life. Mark 16:1 states,
“And when the Sabbath was past, Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James, and Salome, had brought sweet spices, that they might come and anoint him. And very early in the morning the first day of the week (SUN-day), they came unto the sepulcher at the rising of the sun.” (Mark 16:1-2). I hope you noticed the imagery there. We have already noted that Egyptologists state Horus was a sun-god. So was Jesus. See my article HERE for more information about Jesus as the sun god.
How can this knowledge help us?
The skeptics are right in saying that there aren’t direct correlations to all the comparisons with Horus and Jesus at the beginning of this article, but it would be foolish to dismiss it altogether.
In my opinion, the Jesus narrative is a more compacted and better developed death, burial and resurrection story of the savior god-man simply because it had the chance to develop in the Roman Empire under the direction of the emperor and the Church Fathers. When Constantine made Christianity a legally recognized religion, competing religions and claims were stamped out and eventually the main gist of the Christian narrative we have today was fleshed out under strict supervision.
I think it is important for us to realize that by focusing on comparing Jesus to Horus directly, we miss the entire point of the Gospel stories and those represented in Egyptian mythology. The real message behind both stories is about us! The death, burial, and resurrection of the savior god-man was simply to show us how to be born again (a spiritual rebirth) while living on this earth before death. And that is what this blog tries to embody through most, if not all, of its articles.
Blessings! Part 3 of our Joseph narrative will be posted soon.
I really enjoy your information, because I have been searching deeper into religion and untold secrets related to religion, keep up the good work and you should think about writing a book some day.
Marcus, thanks for letting me know you were here. I do appreciate the kind words. I would love to put together a book some day. There are still areas of our ancient past that I need to learn, but one day I definitely plan on writing a book.
Blessings.
I am doing some similar research on the connections between Jesus and Hercules.
each born from a divine father and earthly mother
Jesus had 12 disciples, Hercules had 12 labors. Both the disciples and the labors match
up with correlating zodiac phases.
As a representation of the sun’s transit along the zodiac, the best place to start the journey would be at the summer solstice, which falls in Cancer. To Slay the nine-headed Lernaean Hydra.
I find the Hydra to be the most meaningful task, it represents fighting off lower thoughts to enter into meditation.
The Hydra was a water beast that resided in the spring of Amymone inside a deep cave.
(dark cave – inner world, water – sub-consciousness )
The sacred spring (life soucre – god – pure consciousness) is blocked by a many headed Hydra.
every time he cut of one of the heads (thoughts – thoughts form in the head) two more grew back
(the inherent duality / symmetry of thought)
The weakness of the Hydra was that it was invulnerable only if it retained at least one
head.. Heracles cut off each head and Iolaus cauterized with fire (kundalini) the open stumps.
The Hydra’s one immortal head was cut off with a golden sword given to him by Athena.
Gold represents cosmic consciousness, given by Athena (goddess of wisdom, female, right brain)
There is no one gift of spirituality but, many to bring to fruition over time. The ancient
Hebrews believed to approach the Divine Force of the Mother/Father God, was to be able to walk
through 12 Doorways of Wisdom which in turn became twelve more doors and twelve more, etc.
Brilliant, Brandon. Personally I have never delved into Hercules, but you have shown me why it would be worthwhile to do so. If you ever get this information into an article, you are definitely welcome to publish it here as a guest post. If you already have a website to publish it to, let me know so I can link to the article.
Thanks again for your insight.
it would be an honor to provide you with a guest post. Your site is one of the few I check everyday for updates.
The proper depiction of Horus would be dark skin though wouldn’t it Joshua?
I thought you’d know better. 🤔
True Joey, but outward appearances isn’t really the focus. I guess you could say the pic at the top looks like a white American Indian, which does seem a bit odd. Since I use advanced google images to find free pics, sometimes it can be hard to find just the right fit. 🙂
The proper depiction of Horus would be dark skin though wouldn’t it Joshua?
I thought you’d know better. 🤔
Josh, this is one of your most interesting articles yet! I am wondering if you have delved as deeply into the Aramaic translation since there seems to be some argument about the Greek version of the Bible?
Victoria,
I’m glad you asked. Yes, when I first left the church I began studying the Torah from a Jewish point of view. That eventually led me to the Peshitta (It’s a long story). If one has the time, it is definitely worthwhile to look into the history and influences of all versions. I even got into Shem Tov’s Matthew, a Hebraic version of that Gospel supposedly produced in 1385 A.D.?
Getting into all those different translations was the road I had to take to really see what the Biblical accounts were about. At first I was still too literal in my views, but over time, especially after studying different translations, I began to see why the Bible should not be taken literal and how really valuable it is as a spiritual road map for the soul.
Thanks for commenting, Victoria.
From reading and studying “Science of Being” by Baron Eugene Ferson. Healing by Universal Life Force Five Pointed Star our present evolution point of advancement to the eternal spiritual being.
and “The Master Path Of Light and Sound” By Gary Olsen Self Realization and God Realization before leaving this plane of physical existance we call death but is a transition to the spiritual highter vibrations where thoughts become actual instantly.
and ” Life the Universe and Destiny of Mankind” by Adrian Cooper
All these books correspond to all your revelations and Spiritual interpretations
of all the ancient wisdoms and Spiritual interpetations of sacred Scriptures.
And of course “Divine Science Mind Healing ” By Mary Baker Eddy Called Christian Science
“Science and Health With Key To The Scriptures” Her Main Book.
All of these have there web sites searchable via the websites on google.
Thanks for all your efforts for helping us learn the truths that sets us free and make us all
in the image and likness of our perfect God and Father/Mother Parents and Their only begotten son our brother/sister
Christ Jesus. Truth, Life, Love “In whom we Live and Move and have our Being” We are all His/Her Offspring. The whole Human Race Is The Family of GOD. Intelligent Universal Energy.
Tom,
Thanks for listing all those resources. I am not familiar with all of them. I am trying to increase my library, so I’ll have to look into some of them. Which one do gave you the most revelation? Thanks.
As to your question which one gave me the most revelation
I’d have to say the one I’ve been studying the longest. Divine science
/Christian Science and King James Bible, And Todays English Version
especially 1 john 2:20 and 2:27 “But you have had the Holy Spirit poured
out on you by Christ, and so all of you know the truth. :27 But as for you, Christ has poured out his Spirit on you.As long as his Spirit remains in you, you do not need anyone to teach you.”
These verses coinside with your spiritual view the Christ Jesus is the teacher within us. and John 8:51 “Whoever obeys my teaching will never die.” That is exciting! “Controlled by Divine Intelligence man is harmonious and Eternal” Page 184 lines 16,17 “Science and Health” by Mary Baker Eddy
I plan to read more on Bible passages and hope I find some answers to these intriguing questions. I’d like to know different interpretations so I don’t go blindly with what other people say. But I do keep in mind all the differing views so I may balance or know which side the truth leans more.
There are a number of people claiming that the accounts of Jesus as recorded in the New Testament are simply myths borrowed from pagan folklore, such as the stories of Osiris, Dionysus, Adonis, Attis, and Mithras. The claim is that these myths are essentially the same story as the New Testament’s narrative of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. As Dan Brown claims in The Da Vinci Code, “Nothing in Christianity is original.”
To discover the truth about the claim that the Gospel writers borrowed from mythology, it is important to (1) unearth the history behind the assertions, (2) examine the actual portrayals of the false gods being compared to Christ, (3) expose any logical fallacies being made, and (4) look at why the New Testament Gospels are trustworthy depictions of the true and historical Jesus Christ.
The claim that Jesus was a myth or an exaggeration originated in the writings of liberal German theologians in the nineteenth century. They essentially said that Jesus was nothing more than a copy of popular dying-and-rising fertility gods in various places—Tammuz in Mesopotamia, Adonis in Syria, Attis in Asia Minor, and Horus in Egypt. Of note is the fact that none of the books containing these theories were taken seriously by the academics of the day. The assertion that Jesus was a recycled Tammuz, for example, was investigated by contemporary scholars and determined to be completely baseless. It has only been recently that these assertions have been resurrected, primarily due to the rise of the Internet and the mass distribution of information from unaccountable sources.
This leads us to the next area of investigation—do the mythological gods of antiquity really mirror the person of Jesus Christ? As an example, the Zeitgeist movie makes these claims about the Egyptian god Horus:
• He was born on December 25 of a virgin: Isis Mary
• A star in the East proclaimed his arrival
• Three kings came to adore the newborn “savior”
• He became a child prodigy teacher at age 12
• At age 30 he was “baptized” and began a “ministry”
• Horus had twelve “disciples”
• Horus was betrayed
• He was crucified
• He was buried for three days
• He was resurrected after three days
However, when the actual writings about Horus are competently examined, this is what we find:
• Horus was born to Isis; there is no mention in history of her being called “Mary.” Moreover, “Mary” is our Anglicized form of her real name, Miryam or Miriam. “Mary” was not even used in the original texts of Scripture.
• Isis was not a virgin; she was the widow of Osiris and conceived Horus with Osiris.
• Horus was born during month of Khoiak (Oct/Nov), not December 25. Further, there is no mention in the Bible as to Christ’s actual birth date.
• There is no record of three kings visiting Horus at his birth. The Bible never states the actual number of magi that came to see Christ.
• Horus is not a “savior” in any way; he did not die for anyone.
• There are no accounts of Horus being a teacher at the age of 12.
• Horus was not “baptized.” The only account of Horus that involves water is one story where Horus is torn to pieces, with Isis requesting the crocodile god to fish him out of the water.
• Horus did not have a “ministry.”
• Horus did not have 12 disciples. According to the Horus accounts, Horus had four demigods that followed him, and there are some indications of 16 human followers and an unknown number of blacksmiths that went into battle with him.
• There is no account of Horus being betrayed by a friend.
• Horus did not die by crucifixion. There are various accounts of Horus’ death, but none of them involve crucifixion.
• There is no account of Horus being buried for three days.
• Horus was not resurrected. There is no account of Horus coming out of the grave with the body he went in with. Some accounts have Horus/Osiris being brought back to life by Isis and then becoming the lord of the underworld.
When compared side by side, Jesus and Horus bear little, if any, resemblance to one another.
Jesus is also compared to Mithras by those claiming that Jesus Christ is a myth. All the above descriptions of Horus are applied to Mithras (e.g., born of a virgin, being crucified, rising in three days, etc.). But what does the Mithras myth actually say?
• He was born out of a solid rock, not from any woman.
• He battled first with the sun and then with a primeval bull, thought to be the first act of creation. Mithras killed the bull, which then became the ground of life for the human race.
• Mithras’s birth was celebrated on December 25, along with winter solstice.
• There is no mention of his being a great teacher.
• There is no mention of Mithras having 12 disciples. The idea that Mithras had 12 disciples may have come from a mural in which Mithras is surrounded by the twelve signs of the zodiac.
• Mithras had no bodily resurrection. Rather, when Mithras completed his earthly mission, he was taken to paradise in a chariot, alive and well. The early Christian writer Tertullian did write about Mithraic cultists re-enacting resurrection scenes, but this occurred well after New Testament times, so if any copycatting was done, it was Mithraism copying Christianity.
More examples can be given of Krishna, Attis, Dionysus, and other mythological gods, but the result is the same. In the end, the historical Jesus portrayed in the Bible is unique. The alleged similarities of Jesus’ story to pagan myths are greatly exaggerated. Further, while tales of Horus, Mithras, and others pre-date Christianity, there is very little historical record of the pre-Christian beliefs of those religions. The vast majority of the earliest writings of these religions date from the third and fourth centuries A.D. To assume that the pre-Christian beliefs of these religions (of which there is no record) were identical to their post-Christian beliefs is naive. It is more logical to attribute any similarities between these religions and Christianity to the religions’ copying Christian teaching about Jesus.
This leads us to the next area to examine: the logical fallacies committed by those claiming that Christianity borrowed from pagan mystery religions. We’ll consider two fallacies in particular: the fallacy of the false cause and the terminological fallacy.
If one thing precedes another, some conclude that the first thing must have caused the second. This is the fallacy of the false cause. A rooster may crow before the sunrise every morning, but that does not mean the rooster causes the sun to rise. Even if pre-Christian accounts of mythological gods closely resembled Christ (and they do not), it does not mean they caused the Gospel writers to invent a false Jesus. Making such a claim is akin to saying the TV series Star Trek caused the NASA Space Shuttle program.
The terminological fallacy occurs when words are redefined to prove a point. For example, the Zeitgeist movie says that Horus “began his ministry,” but the word ministry is being redefined. Horus had no actual “ministry”—nothing like that of Christ’s ministry. Those claiming a link between Mithras and Jesus talk about the “baptism” that initiated prospects into the Mithras cult, but what was it actually? Mithraic priests would place initiates into a pit, suspend a bull over the pit, and slit the bull’s stomach, covering the initiates in blood and gore. Such a practice bears no resemblance whatsoever to Christian baptism—a person going under water (symbolizing the death of Christ) and then coming back out of the water (symbolizing Christ’s resurrection). But advocates of a mythological Jesus deceptively use the same term, “baptism,” to describe both rites in hopes of linking the two.
This brings us to the subject of the truthfulness of the New Testament. No other work of antiquity has more evidence to its historical veracity than the New Testament. The New Testament has more writers (nine), better writers, and earlier writers than any other document from that era. Further, history testifies that these writers went to their deaths claiming that Jesus had risen from the dead. While some may die for a lie they think is true, no person dies for a lie he knows to be false. Think about it—if someone was about to crucify you upside down, as happened to the apostle Peter, and all you had to do to save your life was renounce a lie you had knowingly told, what would you do?
In addition, history has shown that it takes at least two generations to pass before myth can enter a historical account. That’s because, as long as there are eyewitnesses to an event, errors can be refuted and mythical embellishments can be exposed. All the Gospels of the New Testament were written during the lifetime of the eyewitnesses, with some of Paul’s Epistles being written as early as A.D. 50. Paul directly appeals to contemporary eyewitnesses to verify his testimony (1 Corinthians 15:6).
The New Testament attests to the fact that, in the first century, Jesus was not mistaken for any other god. When Paul preached in Athens, the elite thinkers of that city said, “‘He seems to be a proclaimer of strange deities,’—because he was preaching Jesus and the resurrection. And they took him and brought him to the Areopagus, saying, ‘May we know what this new teaching is which you are proclaiming? For you are bringing some strange things to our ears; so we want to know what these things mean’” (Acts 17:18–20, NASB). Clearly, if Paul were simply rehashing stories of other gods, the Athenians would not have referred to his doctrine as a “new” and “strange” teaching. If dying-and-rising gods were plentiful in the first century, why, when the apostle Paul preached Jesus rising from the dead, did the Epicureans and Stoics not remark, “Ah, just like Horus and Mithras”?
In conclusion, the claim that Jesus is a copy of mythological gods originated with authors whose works have been discounted by academia, contain logical fallacies, and cannot compare to the New Testament Gospels, which have withstood nearly 2,000 years of intense scrutiny. The alleged parallels between Jesus and other gods disappear when the original myths are examined. The Jesus-is-a-myth theory relies on selective descriptions, redefined words, and false assumptions.
Jesus Christ is unique in history, with His voice rising above all false gods’ as He asks the question that ultimately determines a person’s eternal destiny: “Who do you say I am?” (Matthew 16:15).
Thanks for your time…..
Susan,
Again I appreciate your heartfelt comments. And I also appreciate the knowledge you have shared here. But you haven’t gone deep enough. One who tries to find exact matches with Jesus and other Gods misses the point. Look, the truth is, you won’t look for the meaning behind the similarities in Jesus and other Gods until you find fault with your own doctrine or beliefs. I can effectively argue for and against the similarities between Jesus and other Gods any day of the week. A lot of the times, both sides make good points. Anyone who can’t admit this isn’t being honest with themselves. But again, to say one side is completely right misses the point. Have you ever asked yourself why these other God myths were around? Do you really think the people who invented them honestly believed they were literal? I sure don’t. They were all trying to explain abstract spiritual truths to the finite human brain. The Biblical writers were mystics doing the same.
Blessings Susan.
Joshua, Thank-you for getting back to me..I do appreciate all the knowledge that you have as well..I do believe the Word of God to be truth.. Are there errors, of course, but does that mean we should disregard the Word, the Bible..?
Tell me..How does someone go deeper…I’m not saying at all that the way I know, IS the Way, It’s what I have found in my Journey in this life…
Do you believe in a literal Hell, Heaven, or reincarnation..?
I will continue to look over your Blogs, and your site..
BTW, by mistake I clicked on the link to receive no more e-mails…I WOULD like for U to keep sending the information….
Thank-you, and Blessings to u as well…
P.S. Can u tell me how your parents feel about all u have researched on..as I know u were raised in the Church…?
Susan, what he meant by digging deeper, is that Egyptian Mythology or Egyptology is very confusing and depending on the era of the religion; it is different. It’s not like the Bible where it is constant, however even though the stories contradict each other in Egyptology the stories still pre-date Jesus by at least a 1000 years.
The Egyptian Gods changed over the years, and fell into different roles and had completely different stories to go along with them. For example:
In one version of Egyptology Horus and Isis are siblings, but in other versions Isis is Horus’ Mother.
It appears the sites that you were using to do your research were only looking at one version of the stories. You have to keep digging to find all of the stories surrounding the same event.
I hope that helps.
With regard to the story of the birth of Horus I have read more than once that when Osiris had been killed by Set, Set cut his body into 14 pieces which Isis then had to search for and put together before copulation and following that the birth of Horus could take place. The number fourteen of course has a meaning which I already wrote something about in other comments. In Hebrew it is the numerical value of the name David, 4-6-4, and also of the word jad which means hand. It means action, it means balancing and integrating all the polar opposites of the material world, it means processing your emotions and crucifying your ego. That is what Isis did by searching for the fourteen body parts and when she had found thirteen (the numerical value of oneness and love) she could produce the missing one, which meant the holy marriage and the renting of the veil as I see it. The result of that could only be the birth of Horus within the framework of this story, which as far as I am concerned is the same as the story of the birth of Jesus. The fourteen is also related to the forty-two (3×14) and 3½ (x4=14) in Revelations.
Looking for a literal interpretation seems to be beside the point here. The historical Jesus has probably nothing to do with a historical Horus, if there ever was such a person, apart from the fact that they both probably went through the same process. And the virginity of the respective mothers can be seen in the fact that both processed all their emotions and crucified their ego.
The eye of Horus, or the pineal gland is Peniel, meaning the face of God, as you write in the article under this name. In this Hebrew name however you can also see the related verb panah, which means to turn to and also to face. So the activation of this gland could also mean turning to your God part and facing it which obviously also implies wrestling with it for a while before you become Israel.
I have read several different stories that state Osiris was referred to the King of Kings and the Holy Trinity. I’m surprised you didn’t mention that, or was this just limited to a Horus comparison? But technically in some stories Osiris and Horus are the same God, so it could still be used. 😀
I honestly don’t remember reading anywhere that Horus is the Sun God, I thought that was strictly saved for RA, or did Horus take over once RA “retired”? But I didn’t think that was the case, because I don’t remember any stories of Horus making the nightly boat trip that RA made every night to balance Chaos and Ma’at to bring in a new sunrise.
In my opinion I don’t believe that Christianity stole the identity of Horus for their savior. I believe they stole the identity of Multiple Gods from every other religion that predates Jesus to create the stories of Jesus.
There are just way too many similarities. In Mythology whether it be Egyptian, Greek, or Roman. They all have what is referred to as Heaven, Hell, and Judgement. They just have different names for it. Something I found amusing though is the Greek God of the underworld is Hades, and I have heard catholic priests refer to Hell as Hades.
Christians have always referred to Hell as a Lake of Fire, well that’s original since there is a Lake of Fire in Egyptian Mythology. Go figure. Same with Brimstone.
In reference to someone who posted earlier about the birthdate of Horus not being around Winter Solstace. This is the story I remember from studying mythology:
Set destroyed Osiris to prevent Isis from bearing anymore children. And forced Isis into a pact that she will never bear any children during the regular calendar year (at the time 360 day year).
So Isis wanted more children so she made a deal with the Egyptian Moon God.. Can’t remember his name. And he extended the year by 5 days (Devil Days) and on those days she gave birth to Horus, Nepthus, Horus, I can’t remember the others. And I have to go to work to look them up.. Sorry.
If I remember I will try and edit this post.
Brian,
Interesting information which adds a little more to the picture. Thanks for that. There are so many different angles we could approach. But I definitely agree: the similarities between the Old Testament and Egyptian mythology and the New Testament and Greek mythology are so many that it hardly makes sense any Christian wouldn’t want to question this.
Found the story I was referring to. I had my Goddesses wrong, It was the story of Nut, not
She gave birth to:
Dec 27 – Osiris
Dec 28 -Horus
Dec 29 – Set
Dec 30 – Isis
Dec 31 – Nepthys
I tried to post a link to the page with the story, but apparently that’s not allowed.
Hey Joshua!
I enjoy reading what you write a lot and see that you are a man of truth, but I want to tell you
about this article that it is importent what Susan wrote.
You gave many facts about Horus that it seems they were not correct, and you replied to Susan that it doesn’t matter if the facts are right or wrong but what matters is the spiritual meaning.
I agree (and recommend to read Joseph Campbell about mythology – he is GREAT!).
But because each story in the Bible has a spiritual meaning it is very importent to be accurate.
in Kaballah they use a lot of Gimatria, the number of the word (if a – 1 b- 2 c-3 etc…), so if there is a mistake in a word it changes all the meaning.
There is spiritua meaning to numbers, like 12 for example.
12 tribes of israel.
If someone would tell you that there were 15 tribes of Israel you would correct him because the number 12 has a spiritual meaning.
What would you think if he would say – ‘it doesn’t matter’… It does matter because the truth is importent.
If the information you wrote about Horus is not importent but what is importent is the spiritual meaning of the connection of Jesus and Horus, then why did you write the wrong information,
and if you don’t agree that it is wrong then at least write a bit to diffend your theory.
this will be to appreciate the truth in my point of view, both the Pshat (the facts) and the Drash (the meaning).
Blessings, Eliahu.
Eliahu,
Thanks for bringing this to my attention. There must be a misunderstanding somewhere, because I would never take for granted the information you have brought up. I will go back through the post when I get time and see if I can find where I might have been confusing in my post or comments. Many blessings!
“There must be a misunderstanding somewhere”. Okay. Where?
“I will go back through the post when I get time”. Okay. When? ( It has been 5 months already.)
So, you appreciate Eliahu’s information and gematria? Excellent.
(YHWH) Yod-He-Vav-He = 10 + 5 + 6 + 5 = 26 > 2 + 6 = 8
(YHShWH) Y0d-He-Shin-Vav-He = 10 + 5 + 300 + 6 + 5 = 326 > 3 + 2 + 6 = 11
YHWH + YHShWH = 8 + 11 = 19 > 1 + 9 = 10 > 1 + 0 = 1
Amazing! In the New Testament:
John 10:30 ” I and the Father are one. ”
Today would be a good day for apostate Jews to repent, as well as the apostate Christians that believe your lies.
Al,
The Tetragrammaton stands for the heavenly man, the archetypal man, Adam Kadom (in Kabbalah) and Christ incarnate through mystical Christianity. Of course they’re one! They’re one because we are talking about principles of truth, not literal people. Can we really limit God to a man? Christianity preaches Jesus is both God and man. This could only be true if all people could also attain this status. In fact God says we are all Gods in the Psalms, but we die like men because we don’t attain this status. This status can only be experienced by going within ourselves as Jesus taught, for that is where the Kingdom of God is.
I do understand your rejection of esoteric material. Years ago I would have vehemently argued against all this stuff as well. The truth is, there is so much more to the Sacred scriptures than what we have been traditionally taught. If you search long enough, you will come to this conclusion as well unless you deny the evidence. The conditioned mind (ego) has a way of placing us in a position where we can’t see the evidence, so no one is to be blamed.
I have been searching for that correlation for a long time to show others that don’t understand how that works. Thanks!
You’re very welcome, Smallbird.
Oh yes…I almost forgot:
Nowhere in your “list” does it say that HORUS was CRUCIFIED. Can you explain why not?
Crucifixion wasn’t practiced the same way we see in the Gospels when the Horus myth was originally made. The first evidence of crucifixion the way we know it comes from the Persians in 519 B.C. by Darius. Alexander the Great also employed the practice before the Romans.
The Jesus story is not a carbon-copy of Horus. Each culture expresses the same truths in different ways as the times change and new methods are employed. Horus, the child, expresses the same truth as the birth of Christ in the soul of man.
If we make use of gematria, we should use the correct spelling of the words.
Jesus is called Jeshua according to my Hebrew New Testament, which is written as yod-shin-wav-ayin, in numbers 10 – 300 – 6 – 70, which adds up to 386, 17 and finally 8.
If we use the name Joshua (which I do not remember ever having seen used for Jesus, but which is related) it is Jehoshua, written in the Torah (Deuteronomy 34:9) as yod-he-wav-shin-ayin, or 10 – 5 – 6 – 300 – 70, which adds up to 391, 13 and finally 4.
There was no J until around 12oo AD. So you have to use a Y.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMMW2itrReI how to say Jesus in German. Written in German it is often Ya-Zeus. In Spanish it is Hey-Zeus.
Al Setalokin – I live in Israel and speek Hebrew fluently, in hebrew Jesus is or – ישוע – yod-shin-vav-ain or ישו – yod-shin-vav.
yeshua (the more correct one) is 10+300+6+70=386=9+8=17=8
yeshu – 10+300+6=316=4+6=10=1
so Yeshua has the same gimatria as God.
8
wich is an interesting number…
I recently did some research on the word root shua versus shu and shua has canaanite connotations related to a woman’s name while shu actually means salvation. Can you add anything to this as you state yeshua is more correct than yeshu? Thank you.
Smallbird,
If you have found supporting evidence that shu actually means salvation, than Yeshu is probably more accurate.
http://www.deviantart.com/art/Etchilhampton-96972579
http://www.deviantart.com/art/Bismuth-the-Key-378905180
Al Setalokin – in the link you gave it does written YHShWH, but this is their mistake.
I garantee you that there isn’t any new testement in Hebrew where Jesus is written YHShWH.
I speek fluent Hebrew and I have read the new testement in Hebrew and took a course on it in the Jerusalem university.
I did recently come across something odd. I had long ago studied Greek mythology and also courses in creation literature. So when I began studying Torah (mostly on my own so never sure if what I think I am remezing or sodding is just my imagination or real) Anyway, I was reading some research on older rites associated with what we typically think are solely Greek myths but were actually in many cases ancient Hamitic rites including the eating of flesh and drinking blood, killing children, and other atrocities. Something interesting caught my reading teachers eye (I am really good at word chunking, seeing smaller words in larger words, seeing root relationships). Anyway, some of the alternate spellings for the hero Perseus – who killed the Minotaur (bull) was Pharez, Parez, Perez. I see many Greek overlays in the Torah, such as Zeus (of whom an alternate name is Zera) could not be looked at by the front (face) or the viewer would be instantly killed so he always turned around or turned into an animal … often a bull. There is also a long lingering mythological concept of sons killing fathers and vice versa. I had wondered at times about the “forsaken” cry if whether there wasn’t a different result than what Jesus thought but haven’t come up with anything to support that. Just wonder about that one moment sometimes. There are also very old, pre-Hebrew Minoan accounts in Linear B about the king being killed and his body and blood being partaken of as part of a salvation/fertility rite. The king would know of this ahead of time and – in this matriarchal society – considered it an honor as he was headed for the “eternal life” and glory for saving the community from drought and lack of children … however, eventually, the kings decided this wasn’t so glorious and started substituting a son (substitutionary atonement?) so self-sacrificing for others had a history that could explain the Jesus statement, “before Abraham was I Am” though if a comma is added it does make it make more sense, “before Abraham, was I Am”. This would make sense when you count in the Hittite dig discovery of around 100 years ago. The title for their king was “I Am” and dates prior to Abraham. When you add in the Egyptian, Greek, Hittite connections, the Isaiah statement, “Egypt my people, Israel my inheritance, and Assyria my creation” makes some sense. Just some random things to see if anyone has any additional info. Thank you.
Smallbird,
I am amazed with some of the possible facts you give us here to think about. It makes a lot of sense. I have always believed the Torah is mostly Greek and Egyptian myth retold with some changes and additions, but you provide a lot of convincing evidence to support this. I never knew the title for a Hittite king was “I AM.” Your Isaiah statement makes perfect sense. I know that Isaiah also makes a reference to the Giza pyramids which I have wrote about in one of my articles.
above is a link to 20+ years of writing since my pineal gland opened:
just scanned some of this material and it is awesome but here is my concern which may not be relevant
people “THINK” they can gain knowledge (UNION) by INFORMATION when knowledge is UNION
so without the actual union with the information, its just more stuff to fill your mind with
if Jesus is Horus, then what does it matter who is who?
the main thing is Jesus must be “KNOWN” or Horus then must be known
why did THE I AM THAT I AM want his people to leave Egypt: he is the God of the Egyptians after all according to Isaiah 19:25
Egypt my people, Assyria the work of my hands and Israel my inheritance
to KNOW then you have to ‘BE JOINED to the truth” that is revealed through the opening of your PINEAL gland
while meditation supposedly brings you there………….then why aren’t people’s pineal glands open everywhere?
because only the SINGLE eye can discern the light in you
so you need an open pineal gland to see with the single eye
Jesus is a name the gentiles will trust and by trusting Jesus one is trusting the ‘temple of God’ because that is what Jesus is, the inner temple that we have to ENTER INTO hence IN CHRIST, in the light of the open pineal gland
well that’s enough for now
I think the information of Egypt was for the gods and the common people, the nations needed their own understanding of this God who would become ONE, joined to them as well
hopefully both gods and men will soon find their true union with what they seek for
Yvonne,
Astute comment. Thank you. It resonates. But I don’t think the link you mention is there?
I like your posts! I also started my own research about the hidden mysteries from the bible when my mom got sick (cancer). My father did 15 years of yoga and his and my research are now combined.
I reached your conclusions, but I am far behind you.
I did find the 3 wise men in the Matthew:
Matthew 2New King James Version (NKJV)
Wise Men from the East
2 Now after Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judea in the days of Herod the king, behold, wise men from the East came to Jerusalem, 2 saying, “Where is He who has been born King of the Jews? For we have seen His star in the East and have come to worship Him.”
3 When Herod the king heard this, he was troubled, and all Jerusalem with him. 4 And when he had gathered all the chief priests and scribes of the people together, he inquired of them where the Christ was to be born.
5 So they said to him, “In Bethlehem of Judea, for thus it is written by the prophet:
6
‘But you, Bethlehem, in the land of Judah,
Are not the least among the rulers of Judah;
For out of you shall come a Ruler
Who will shepherd My people Israel.’”[a]
7 Then Herod, when he had secretly called the wise men, determined from them what time the star appeared. 8 And he sent them to Bethlehem and said, “Go and search carefully for the young Child, and when you have found Him, bring back word to me, that I may come and worship Him also.”
I did find many answers and connections in this book: Anacalypsis by G. Higgins
https://thedarksideofhistory.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/anacalypsis_v_1-godfrey_higgins-1927-786pgs-rel-sml.pdf
We have to remember that the neteru represented principles of nature so it is highly probable that when they say Horus walked on water that is more of a metaphorical or allegorical way of describing how the sun looks against the water on a sunset for example when it seems to walk on water because we all know horus represented the sun
There are no extant Egyptian texts that describe Isis copulating with Osiris, resulting in the birth of Horus. All such interpretations are assumptions made from Egyptian iconography that depicts Isis floating above a dead Osiris. The only have a partially written account of the Isis mythos is from the Greek historian Herodotus, which makes no such comment about Horus’ birth. The great majority of ancient texts were destroyed by Roman dictators and Christian zealots.
Of course, it is interesting to note that of all the missing body parts (14 in total) only the phallus was lost, yet leads to the birth of a god. The motif of castration, along with the virgin birth theme, is repeated throughout the ancient mystery religions. In Greek mythology, the castration of Ouranos, by his son Cronus, resulted in the birth of the Titans, Cyclopes and other monstrous entities, when the phallus fell in the ocean, the goddess of beauty and love, Aphrodite was created. In ancient Phrygia, the great Mother Goddess Cybele developed out the castration of Anthropos Agdistis. In any event, the esoteric intent of the castration motif is to express the concept that the sublimation of sexual energy leads to a higher state of being; thus when one god dies, another is born to a higher level. A concept that is related both evolutionary and personal growth.
Isis was worshipped throughout Asia Minor to Rome as a Virgin goddess, as she actually is the personification of the transformative power of the feminine energy Kundalini. It was Isis who raised Osiris from the dead, a process that involves reversing ones sexual energy from flowing outward to upwards towards the “cave of Brahman” in the brain. So these well-known phrases such as “virgin born,” is similar to the castration motif, as both are metaphors alluding to the actual physical process of sexual sublimation and enlightenment.
Hor’s mother has other names. The original is hwt-hor or Hathor. Hathor is the oldest known god in Egypt. Her name means house of Horus. Her name is Meri-Hathor!
The name Hathor has the same concept as bethel (house of god or temple of god) Beth or bath is woman and is represented as a house or tent. It’s the second letter In the aleph-bet. Aleph is a bull and is the father. El the supreme God in the Levantine was a bull. El = Al as in al-eph. So Beth-El is the the house of El. Now Horus is his father Osiris who is what? A bull.
Bethel is the place Jacob became Israel and where Jacobs dream of angels ascending and descending on the ladder. It’s also the place rachel died ( the mother of Joseph who was an Egyptian and married to the high priestess of On which is the sun god in Heliopolis). She died giving birth to the son of my right hand aka Ben-Jamin. On their way to Beth-lehem the house of bread where
Jesus was born. Actually it’s bethelehem ephraath which is double portion. Ephraath is the double of Ephraim who is Joseph’s son that takes over his standard in the Israelite encampment. His symbol is the bull.
Now our alphabet or aleph-bet started as far as we know with Semitic miners in the Sinai peninsula. This is called the protosinaitic script. The earliest inscriptions were found at serabit al-khadim which was a turquoise mine dedicated to… Hathor. I believe this is the historical kernel or memory that inspired the the mountain of god where the Israelites received the Ten Commandments and where Moses met with God. Of note is that the oldest inscription of the name yhwh was found in the Sinai. There is another mining town in Israel called timna. A tabernacle was found there that was dedicated to Hathor which had been desecrated (Jewish reformers likely). This tabernacle has the same layout as the Israelite tabernacle. In the holy of holies was found a bronze serpent!
Aaron the high priest and brother of Moses is called Harun in Arabic. Harun died on Mt. Hor. Har =Hur= Hor= Heru= Horus. So the high priest has a Horus name and dies on mount Horus. There is another prominent Horus named Hur. Hur helped hold up Moses arms in that big battle (and may have been his brother). He also was left in co charge with the other hor names Harun while Moses went to speak with God On Mt. Sinai which again was likely serabit el Khadim, a temple of Hathor. This is where the incident of the golden calf took place showing that the Israelites were worshipping Hathor. Hur is the father of Caleb the dog who was allowed in to the promised land along with Joshua while the rest of their generation died in the wilderness. Caleb means dog and likely represents the Dog Star known as Sirius aka Osiris. Caleb’s mother is Ephraath. Hur is the father of Bethlehem. Hur’s grandson is Bezalel who designed the tabernacle and ark!
Now the other name for Isis or Hathor is Qadesh. This is the word holy in Hebrew. And in fact is the name for the tabernacle. The inner court is called the holy place or Qodesh. The holy of holies is the qodesh qodesh.
I have something very exciting relating to this but haven’t gone public with it yet. I believe it shows without a doubt that the early Israelites were worshippers of Hathor and Horus.
Now all of this historical stuff is just evidence to link Jesus and Horus and that the spiritual teachings of Jesus go all the way back to Egypt.
I could also talk about Miriam leading the exodus with other priestesses playing timbrels. Miriam is Mary aka meri. The clues are there.
Edit: in my haste i said Jacob’s ladder was at bethel. It’s at Penuel.
I love to read this stuff
And then practice with it …
Someone said to be in Union with.
So, for me, the Egyptian story adds to the understanding i get from the Gnostic stories (by practicing an active dream-life)
In stenotype it goes like this :
Geb and Nut (Earth and Heaven) in Union create Isis/Osiris and over time adds ‘personalities’ to itself. Somehow Isis (ying, material) engages a ‘lived version’ of Osiris (yang) and in the Union the being Horus (the Christ within) arises.
How does this come about ?
By the fall of Isis/Osiris (helped by the oponent Seth). Isis/Osiris ‘dies’ into multiple separated parts (). The remaining part Isis roams the Earth (and underworld) to refind these Osiris parts. Not finding the penis, Isis still manages the Union (Virgin Byrth).
What is the practical lesson for us ?
1. Refind our missing parts
2. Come in Union with them
How : Learn to roam the underworld at night-time. Dream and learn to communicate in your dreams (with the help of the jakhals god Anubis).
Get into Union with the help of the wisdom god Thoth.
This story can point to 3 cycles :
– day and night (1)
– birth, life, death, re-incarnate (2)
– create the Christ within (3)
1 is a preparation for 2,
2 is a preparation for 3
Does it end there ? No, it is a cycle and at the end starts a new cycle on another level (no myths about that).
So imo this gives a very useful hint how to get into Christ awareness. Carl Jung would say re-integrate your Shadow.
Seth is given an important role (fighting chaos). It is a bit like giving your ‘negative’ character something to play with. It needs to stay in awareness (in the boat).